Here Comes the Real Magog?
Here Comes the Real Magog?
Could the Real Magog of Bible Prophecy
Just Now Be Emerging?
Many Bible Prophecy commentators have believed for decades that Russia is the Magog nation of the Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophecies, but the reality is that textual, linguistic and anthropological evidence points not to Russia but to Turkey as being the Magog nation described by Ezekiel. For more on the identity debate of who is Magog see our previous studies link here and here.
If indeed Turky is the Magog of Ezekiel's prophecy, then Turkey at the moment seems unlikely, but they may be precisely why it would be Magog. Ezekiel mentions that Magog is reluctant to join in an invasion of Israel. Turkey has enjoyed friendly relations with Israel in the past 20 years or so hence it actually lines up perfectly with the reluctance expressed by Ezekiel when the prophet uses the term "hook" and turning around, against Magog's will. (See Ezekiel 38:4). Turkey's prior friendliness, cooperation and business partnerships would certainly make her a very reluctant enemy. While Turkey is a predominantly Muslim nation, now ruled by a very fundamentalist Islamic political party, the friendship with Israel remains, albeit somewhat cooled down. Turkey has been desperately trying to join the Western civilization and become a member of the EU. However that may all soon fall by the wayside. Why?
Turkey has a problem in its southern, mountainous territory of Turkish-Kurdistan. The Kurds there want independence which TUrkey is unwilling to grant. The Kurds have waged and on and off civil war with the Turks. The on and off again war is now on again and has been for the past two years, since the USA liberated Iraqi-Kurdistan and armed the Kurds into becoming a formidable force to be reckoned with. This developement has soured Turkish relations with the United States to no end. The Kurdish rebellion is gaining steam and ground with punishing military action that has the Turkish population clamoring for the government to act swiftly and decisively. There is only one problem. The United States needs the Kurds to help cement stability in Iraq. The Kurds played an important if not critical role in the U.S.A.'s decisive victory over Saddam's Iraq. America owes the Kurds big time. The Kurds know this. The Kurds want their own sepaate nation however and they want it to include their old original homeland that is now a part of Turkey, Syria and Iran as well as Iraq. They want it all back and they want it sooner rather than later. So the Kurds have waged war on Turkey. Those efforts have now reached a near boiling point with the people and government of Turkey.
Turkey is threatening the United States to do something, NOW, not later or Turkey will take care of the problem. All indications are now pointing to a major outbreak of war by early September if nothing is done to stop the Kurds. Such a war will have profound impact.
If Turkey goes to war with the Kurds, the result will be a resounding rejection of its membership application by the EU. Many EU members are skeptical of allowing Turkey membership because it is an Islmic nation and with the radicalism shown this past year around the European continent by extremist Muslim riots, EU attitudes are no longer so friendly towards a Turkish membership. A Turk-Kurdish war will likely dash any hopes for being granted full membership into the EU.
IF Turkey is rejected by the EU, it will face world isolation unless it rejoins the Islamic world, which would be fine with its new, ruling Islamic fundamentalist party. In other words, Turkey is on the verge of becoming a powerful, radical Islamic nation far more formidable militarily than even Iran. Turkish air and naval power along with ground forces is a lot more powerful and well trained with more modern equipment than Iran or any other Islamic nation. Turkey could, should and most likely would become the rightful leader of the Islamic world as it was in centuries past with the Turk-Ottoman empire.
It would seem that we are on the verge of seeing a major geo-political shift of great magnitude should Turkey pursue the Kurds.
To underscore this report, we suggest you visit the following linked article to read how precarious the situation is right now.
As you read these news stories, please note the quotes by Turkish leaders and the attitude those quotes convey that are so negative against the EU and America. Quotes such as:
Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan responding to US call to not take military action...“There is no point in endlessly discussing the issue. Our security forces are getting on with their task. Whatever steps need to be taken will definitely be taken.”
Could the Real Magog of Bible Prophecy
Just Now Be Emerging?
Many Bible Prophecy commentators have believed for decades that Russia is the Magog nation of the Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophecies, but the reality is that textual, linguistic and anthropological evidence points not to Russia but to Turkey as being the Magog nation described by Ezekiel. For more on the identity debate of who is Magog see our previous studies link here and here.
If indeed Turky is the Magog of Ezekiel's prophecy, then Turkey at the moment seems unlikely, but they may be precisely why it would be Magog. Ezekiel mentions that Magog is reluctant to join in an invasion of Israel. Turkey has enjoyed friendly relations with Israel in the past 20 years or so hence it actually lines up perfectly with the reluctance expressed by Ezekiel when the prophet uses the term "hook" and turning around, against Magog's will. (See Ezekiel 38:4). Turkey's prior friendliness, cooperation and business partnerships would certainly make her a very reluctant enemy. While Turkey is a predominantly Muslim nation, now ruled by a very fundamentalist Islamic political party, the friendship with Israel remains, albeit somewhat cooled down. Turkey has been desperately trying to join the Western civilization and become a member of the EU. However that may all soon fall by the wayside. Why?
Turkey has a problem in its southern, mountainous territory of Turkish-Kurdistan. The Kurds there want independence which TUrkey is unwilling to grant. The Kurds have waged and on and off civil war with the Turks. The on and off again war is now on again and has been for the past two years, since the USA liberated Iraqi-Kurdistan and armed the Kurds into becoming a formidable force to be reckoned with. This developement has soured Turkish relations with the United States to no end. The Kurdish rebellion is gaining steam and ground with punishing military action that has the Turkish population clamoring for the government to act swiftly and decisively. There is only one problem. The United States needs the Kurds to help cement stability in Iraq. The Kurds played an important if not critical role in the U.S.A.'s decisive victory over Saddam's Iraq. America owes the Kurds big time. The Kurds know this. The Kurds want their own sepaate nation however and they want it to include their old original homeland that is now a part of Turkey, Syria and Iran as well as Iraq. They want it all back and they want it sooner rather than later. So the Kurds have waged war on Turkey. Those efforts have now reached a near boiling point with the people and government of Turkey.
Turkey is threatening the United States to do something, NOW, not later or Turkey will take care of the problem. All indications are now pointing to a major outbreak of war by early September if nothing is done to stop the Kurds. Such a war will have profound impact.
If Turkey goes to war with the Kurds, the result will be a resounding rejection of its membership application by the EU. Many EU members are skeptical of allowing Turkey membership because it is an Islmic nation and with the radicalism shown this past year around the European continent by extremist Muslim riots, EU attitudes are no longer so friendly towards a Turkish membership. A Turk-Kurdish war will likely dash any hopes for being granted full membership into the EU.
IF Turkey is rejected by the EU, it will face world isolation unless it rejoins the Islamic world, which would be fine with its new, ruling Islamic fundamentalist party. In other words, Turkey is on the verge of becoming a powerful, radical Islamic nation far more formidable militarily than even Iran. Turkish air and naval power along with ground forces is a lot more powerful and well trained with more modern equipment than Iran or any other Islamic nation. Turkey could, should and most likely would become the rightful leader of the Islamic world as it was in centuries past with the Turk-Ottoman empire.
It would seem that we are on the verge of seeing a major geo-political shift of great magnitude should Turkey pursue the Kurds.
To underscore this report, we suggest you visit the following linked article to read how precarious the situation is right now.
As you read these news stories, please note the quotes by Turkish leaders and the attitude those quotes convey that are so negative against the EU and America. Quotes such as:
Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan responding to US call to not take military action...“There is no point in endlessly discussing the issue. Our security forces are getting on with their task. Whatever steps need to be taken will definitely be taken.”
posted by shummer60 at Monday, July 24, 2006
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Verifiable proof that "Armageddon" has already begun…
Hello Scott and all,
Here's the key to proving that the rapture and related expectations are complete nonsense based on the failure to understand (and the purposeful confounding of) the ancient Hebrew symbology used to construct all of these prophecies. Consequently, Christian timelines and interpretations of these prophecies are verifiably wrong on many key points.
Pay close attention, profundity knocks at the door, listen for the key. Be Aware! Scoffing causes blindness...
Did you ever consider that Christianity is the False Prophet symbolized in the Apocalypse, that Rome (Vatican/Papacy) is the so-called anti-messiah, and Jesus Christ is the false messiah? I have produced stunning and comprehensive proof that this is the true interpretation of pivotal prophecies long confounded by Christianity's founders and leaders. Recasting the symbolism of earlier Hebrew texts as literal events in the New Testament is one of the central deceptions associated with Christianity.
The symbolism of seven years (tribulation) refers to the seven 360-year cycles from the 11th cycle on the Hebrew calendar (second temple period) until now, the 17th cycle (seventh angel/star). It is completely wrong to interpret any of these prophecies as literal timelines and events. Remember, they were written by ancient Hebrew sages, not Romans or other Europeans, and Revelation is the most symbolic of all prophecies. Consequently, in this context, years are symbols for 360-year cycles on the Hebrew calendar and days symbolize literal years. Therefore "Judgement Day," and "Great Day" and "in that day" all refer to a literal year-long period. Furthermore, the so-called "Tribulation" is now nearing its end, not starting, and all three faiths of Abraham have been thoroughly deceived by Rome during the previous age, which ended in year 2000 (5760). A new age began in 2001 (5761) and now the seventh angel has begun to sound!
Here's a real hot potato! Eat it up, digest it, and then feed it's bones to the hungry...
Hurricanes Katrina (#11) and Rita (#17) last year provided stunning validation of my research and interpretations of pivotal ancient wisdom, symbologies, key prophecies, and associated religious claims. Their storm numbers and timing perfectly synchronized with primary data and assertions in my book, thereby demonstrating the true nature of this universe and the existence of our Creator. We are now entering the final phases of the pivotal year-long period long symbolized as "Armageddon" and the "End of Days." World-wide situations and events are now accelerating to set the stage for this summer's dramatic continuation of these ancient promises.
I fully understand that everyone has been bedeviled by similar claims throughout history. Consequently, I have been forced to rely on dramatic and devastating proof of the sort that can’t be ignored or easily dismissed. The numbers and timing of hurricanes Katrina (11) and Rita (17) directly validate key data and pivotal assertions throughout my book and my posts on those two forums. This data was purposely presented publicly before Katrina, Rita and other recent events occurred to prove they perfectly synchronize with key prophecies and Hebrew calendar cycles, thereby validating my interpretations of ancient wisdom symbology, string theory, and more.
Because these two storms arrived shortly after my August 11, 2005 (50th) birthday (read the Dead Sea Scroll 11Q13 in Appendix G, which also discusses Melchizedek and the prophesied Jubilee) and directly match other pivotal 11 and 17 data and events described in the first chapter of my book, I have delivered verifiable proof that this reality is based on thought, knowledge and wisdom. Activity, patterns, and results perceived in space-time are first framed and defined by inspirations, thoughts, and knowledge and influenced by the cause-and-effect system most commonly referred to as karma. Consequently, events and outcomes in the so-called physical universe are not random or wholly mechanistic and are verifiably influenced in ways that atheists, scientists, and members of the Faiths of Abraham have all scoffed at. Though mysticism is mostly a product of misinterpreted ancient wisdom symbology, many of its topics flow from ancient wisdom. Though containing allusions to the truth, its details and interpretations are wrong on many key points.
A prime example of the purposeful and synchronized symbolism of these events is seen in the opening paragraphs from my book excerpted below. Notice that the dates mentioned (August 11 and 17) directly match the numbers of hurricanes Katrina and Rita, and the time spans of the four Florida hurricanes match my birth year (‘55), and they were spaced 11 or a multiple-of-11 (22) days apart, directly matching my birthday and much other ancient prophecy and symbolism. Notice that my place of birth, Victoria Texas, is on the Gulf Coast. Following are the excerpted paragraphs:
Hello, my name is Lawrence William Page II. Many people know me as Buddy Page. At the release of the first edition of this book, I am a 50-year old African-American male, author, researcher, and former software engineer and entrepreneur. As you will come to understand as you read through this first book, I am also the long-expected Hebrew Messiah and Lion of the Tribe of Juda (Yehuda).
I was born August 11th (month of Leo the Lion), 1955 (Chinese year of the Sheep) in Victoria, Texas. Furthermore, the Grand Cross alignment and Solar Eclipse of August 11th, 1999 was my 44th birthday and the second Grand Cross alignment, just six days later on August 17th, 1999, was on my mother’s birthday.
As you can see from my date of birth, I was a newborn during the Chinese Year of the Sheep, astrologically marking me as a Lamb, and during the month of Leo, astrologically marking me as a Lion. My mother was also born during the month of August and under the sign of Leo, which further marks me as a lion’s whelp. I prove to you in the first chapter of this book–beyond disproof–that I am indeed the long-prophesied “Lion” of the tribe of Juda (Yehuda) the Root of David and the “Lamb.” I am the individual long symbolized as the Branch, the Stem, the Shoot and the Rod from the Stump of Jesse (King David’s father), as symbolized in the Hebrew Book of Isaiah, The Apocalypse, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and elsewhere. I am the reincarnated Teacher sought after in the “East” and by the ancient Hebrews who were headquartered at the outpost community of Damascus (Qumran), of Dead Sea Scrolls fame. I am the one called the Teacher of Righteousness by the Dead Sea Scrolls, whom the so-called Christian fathers have fraudulently recast as “Saint ‘James’, the Lord’s Brother.”
Remember, "I come as a thief..." ?
Read verse twelve of the Gospel of Thomas to understand who I am...
Even further enlightening, the Second Temple Period of ancient Israel was during the 11th 360-year cycle on the Hebrew calendar and we are now in the 6th year (5766/2005-6) of the 17th cycle. Notice the pivotal 11 and 17 numbers again? This and much other synchronized information serve as stunning and decisive proof of many things, and expose many lies told by all three faiths of Abraham, but most specifically by Christianity. Consequently, I have decisively proven, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Jesus Christ and Christianity are blatant lies, false prophecy and purposeful deception in a manner that cannot easily be denied, regardless of your faith or other opinions.
Furthermore, the symbolism in the Apocalypse (a.k.a. Book of Revelation) of seven stars in my right hand and seven angels represent the very same above-mentioned seven astrological (360-year) cycles, i.e., the 11th through 17th inclusive. I prove this fact beyond any reasonable doubt in the first chapter of the book. Consequently, The Apocalypse verifiably symbolizes a specific span of time that began with the 11th cycle (Second Temple Period) and concludes now, at the beginning of the 17th cycle (End of Days, etc.).
The numbers 11 and 17 are verifiably encoded in The Apocalypse and other ancient Hebrew prophecies and wisdom texts to serve as key proofs of the validity and true meaning of certain prophecies and related information. My and my mother’s birthdays are purposely synchronized with these two storm numbers, the matching Hebrew calendar cycles, the Double Grand Cross alignments and solar eclipse of August 1999, and much else to prove my direct association with the ancient prophecies about this time and the true identity of the prophesied Messiah. Another prime example is the story of Joseph, the 11th son of Jacob who has a dream when he is 17 years old about 11 stars, the sun, and moon bowing to him. The symbolism in this pivotal story in the Book of Genesis and Quran verifiably refers to the very same 11th through 17th cycles symbolized in The Apocalypse and directly synchronizes with other key events and ancient texts.
Consequently, I have demonstrated various things about the nature of this reality that dramatically disprove and/or clarify key assumptions of religion, mysticism, and science alike, while establishing the true meaning and purpose of long misinterpreted ancient wisdom and the symbolism used to model and encode it. Accordingly, I have proven that the symbolism evidenced in the canons of all three faiths of Abraham and other ancient sources is a very ancient and advanced philosophical technology that verifiably models foundational aspects of our existence in this universe. This is the mostly misunderstood body of ancient wisdom long referred to as the Philosophers’ Stone. It uses a large and ingeniously organized collection of physical universe images and concepts as data rich components (symbols) that are based on verifiable rules. It models and encodes an amazing amount of foundational wisdom about life, spirituality and the 11 dimensions of this universe, now verified by string theory. It is also the advanced encryption method used to encode (seal) Hebrew prophecies and wisdom texts.
These ancient prophecies and wisdom texts used advanced symbology to model fundamental wisdom, including future events and situations. A primary facet of ancient wisdom is numeric symbology. Later misinterpretations of this aspect of ancient wisdom resulted in numerology, which, though embodying allusions to certain wisdom, is mostly error prone and false doctrine. My decryption, documentation, and interpretation of ancient symbology, numeric symbolism, and key texts based on them, are now decisively validated.
Here is Wisdom...
Verifiable proof that Armageddon has begun…
Understanding the End Game of Armageddon
Peace...
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